01: High & Welcome (Legalization with Jack Lloyd)
On the pilot episode of The Dopist, host Zoe Brownstone celebrates the legalization of recreational cannabis in Canada, with a Cannabis Act 101 chat with lawyer and activist Jack Lloyd. They discuss Canada’s path to legalization, laws pertaining to consumers and workers, and Jack’s long-term vision for legalization (show notes below).
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The Dopist is a new weekly podcast helping you navigate and enjoy the cannabis landscape in Canada. Host Zoe Brownstone talks to the activists, artists and entrepreneurs shaping recreational cannabis. Follow @thedopist on Instagram, and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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Show notes:
Jack’s path to cannabis law [2:40]
* Jack worked in the cannabis industry, volunteering for the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws in Canada, and editing at Green Candy Press – the largest publisher of books about cannabis
* He felt he could be more useful to the community as a lawyer rather than a political advocate and editor, and went to law school
Legalization in Canada [3:40]
* The commitment and resoluteness of the cannabis community has been the catalyst to dismantle 95 years of prohibition
* We stand on the shoulders of a great many activists, lawyers and cannabis community members, such as Marc Emery, Jodie Emery, Dana Larsen, Alan Young, Paul Lewin, Kirk Tousaw and other lawyers
* The Parker decision in the Ontario court of appeal is where legal cannabis was born
Legal consumption [6:10]
* Depending where you are in Canada, you are bound by certain rules in regards to where you can use cannabis
* In Ontario, you can use cannabis anywhere tobacco is lawfully used, following the smoke-free Ontario Act
* Recreational users can carry up to 30 grams of licit cannabis
* Medical users can carry 150 grams of medical cannabis, and purchase an additional 30 grams
* There’s no barrier to how much you can have at home
* You can grow four plants in your backyards, harvest them and share up to 30 grams with a consenting adult
* Previously, this would have been drug trafficking
Laws for OCS [11:20]
* The same function works on the Ontario Cannabis Store web site
* Anyone in your home 19 years of age or older may sign for a delivery
Legal concerns for consumers [13:05]
* It’s going to be difficult to determine licit cannabis from illicit cannabis
* If it can be proven that you have a high potency extract that was produced using an organic solvent, that will be deemed illicit – you might be charged with a form of drug trafficking, or production of a controlled substance
* You may produce your one carrier-free concentrates, using a device like a rosin press, or bake your own edibles using a fatty substance like butter or milk
Working in cannabis [16:30]
* The dominant narrative is that you can cross-over from the black or grey market to the legal market, and you’re encouraged to do so, but you may, or may not pass a security clearance to become licensed
* Budtenders working at unlicensed dispensaries faces the same jeopardy as prior to legalization
* In Ontario, if a dispensary plays ball and shuts down on October 16th, they have the opportunity to become licensed
U.S Border [20:35]
* In Jack’s experience, concerns over crossing into the U.S as a cannabis worker or investor are overblown
* The sheer act of having interacted with the cannabis plant at any time in your life could act as a barrier to entry to the United States, but this has been the same for the last 95 years
Future policy [22:30]
* In-person retail access in Ontario is only possible through illegal compassion clubs
* Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, P.E.I and Newfoundland are ready to go, with Provincial replacements for in-person retail
* There should be coupled with medical compassion clubs, as certain patients don’t want to access their medicine as the same place that someone accesses their…